The New Science of the Enchanted Universe: An Anthropology of Most of Humanity - Marshall Sahlins

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  Hogweed
  April 27th, 2023
  

  Interesting book. But what is now throwing a wrench in that thinking, is the science behind Near Death Experiences, which has mushroomed as millions of people in the USA alone have experienced this, and it has caught the attention of many doctors and other professionals.
  I find it very profound, who else if more qualified to talk about it then those who have actually died. As someone who has studied biology/astronomy/and many other areas of science and history, as well as being an atheist most of my life, I started researching this over 20 years ago, and now I have little to no doubt that what these people are saying is exactly what they saw and experienced, and not any kind of hallucination. For anyone with doubts, I can only say you should look into it and take a look at what all these people are saying.
  I like to say “People don’t believe in NDE’s, until they have one”

  The New Science of the Enchanted Universe: An Anthropology of Most of Humanity - Marshall Sahlins
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  apnea
  April 28th, 2023
  

  

  Hogweed, can you provide a link to some of this science. The stuff I’ve read is not so exciting. Mostly cut off oxygen to the human brain, human sees lights due to the fact that an oxygen starved brain is dysfunctional. Most of the claimants seem like they have already decided. I see plenty of arguments from incredulity - ‘what else could it be’? Get a friend to choke you out - good chance you will see lights & other stuff & feel different. Erotic asphyxiation is restricting oxygen to the brain for the purpose of having a extremely intense & pleasurably out of this world orgasm. Lack of oxygen flowing to the brain can cause delusions & hallucinations, so I would need to see some serious evidence to convince me that Near Death Experiences are something other than oxygen starved brains producing delusions & hallucinations or that other crazy show the brain puts on while sleeping called dreaming.

  Do you have little to no doubt that what people are saying happened while dreaming is exactly what they saw and experienced?

  Most of these so called NDE’s are pretty mild compared to some of the people in Oliver Sacks.

  Don’t forget the links to the peer reviewed papers claiming so called NDE’s are anything but common delusions, hallucinations or dreams.
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  *Near-death myth alive and kicking*
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  “In a nutshell, the common beliefs are that the NDE happens only to those who are dying, and that it is also proof of an afterlife. But neither belief is correct.”
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  “However, NDEs are not always related to death (despite the ‘D’ in NDE).

  For example, the training of combat fighter pilots can involve high G forces in a centrifuge, which sends the blood away from the brain to the feet, leading to unconsciousness. The typical pathway involves a greying of the vision, followed by total blackout and vivid dreams.

  Some 20 per cent of pilots who blackout in this centrifuge training report classic NDEs, with the out-of-body experience. And to further separate the NDE from death, in hospital situations where patients report an NDE, some 50 per cent of them would have survived without any medical intervention.”

  “But recently, Dr Olaf Blanke, a neurologist at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne in Switzerland, was able to consistently duplicate some of the elements of the NDE in the lab.

  He stimulated, with electricity, a part of the brain called the left angular gyrus. Patients immediately reported the impression of a shadowy person lurking behind them. And when he stimulated the right angular gyrus, they reported that they left their physical body and could look down on it from above — the classic out-of-body experience.”
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  https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2007/03/08/1866095.htm
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  The New Science of the Enchanted Universe: An Anthropology of Most of Humanity - Marshall Sahlins
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  Bytbiter
  May 14th, 2023
  

  I don’t even understand the title, but seeing “science” and “enchanted” together set my woo-woo alarm bleeping.

  The New Science of the Enchanted Universe: An Anthropology of Most of Humanity - Marshall Sahlins
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  caesar963
  June 25th, 2023
  

  

  Sounds enchanting.

  The New Science of the Enchanted Universe: An Anthropology of Most of Humanity - Marshall Sahlins

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